[sangkancil] Rahman Salah Selam, Burning People's Houses and Women's

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Rahman Salah Selam, Burning  People's  Houses and  Women's  Buttocks.


Rahman: The idea of REJECTING THE HADITH so as to be able to interpret 
the Quran to support the Western Liberals idea.  I know you GAH people 
from the inside out.

*The more you talk the more we can see how much you really know. Please 
do not stop talking.  Now you say 'Western Liberals idea'. Do western 
liberal  ideas promote following   the  Quran  and  the  rejection of  
the fake hadith ? This is fantastic.  I  thought  Kassim Ahmad was just 
a Melayu from Perak. I did not know he was a western liberal. Thank you 
for the information.

Rahman: But, Imam Bukhari DID NOT INVENT ANYTHING.  Only a FOOL would 
make such  STUPID STATEMENT>  

*Bukhari wrote down in  book  form  the  rubbish  which you say is among 
the sahih hadith. I give you an example:

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1. Hadis  No. 617  narrated by   Abu Huraira:   
Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hand my soul is I was about to 
order for collecting fire-wood (fuel) and then order Someone to 
pronounce the Adhan for the prayer and then order someone to lead the 
prayer then I would go from behind and burn the houses of men who did 
not present themselves for the (compulsory congregational) prayer. By 
Him, in Whose Hands my soul is, if anyone of them had known that he 
would get a bone covered with good meat or two (small) pieces of meat 
present in between two ribs, he would have turned up for the 'Isha' 
prayer.'

In this  fake  rubbish  the  SATAN Bukhari  accuses  the  Prophet  of  
wanting  to   burn  down  people's  houses  if  they  dont  go  to  the  
mosque for prayer.  In case you are in doubt about this hadis,  here  is  
another version of  the  same  false  accusation  by  the  SATANIC  
Bukhari  about  the  good Prophet:

Sahih Bukhari  Volume  1.  Hadis No  626  narrated by   Abu Huraira
The Prophet said, "No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr 
and the 'Isha' prayers and if they knew the reward for these prayers at 
their respective times, they would certainly present themselves (in the 
mosques) even if they had to c awl." The Prophet added, "Certainly I 
decided to order the Mu'adh-dhin (call-maker) to pronounce Iqama and 
order a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to burn all 
those who had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with 
their houses."

Here  the  SATANIC  Bukhari  says  the  Prophet  wanted to  burn  the  
people  as  well  as  their  houses. This  is  a  false  teaching  and  
a  fake  fairy  tale  written  by  the SATAN Bukhari  to  slander the  
good Prophet.  Funny  that you  mention  fools.  You must be a real 
melayu to believe   something  foolish like  this fake  hadith  by  the  
SATAN  Bukhari.  There is  more  Rahman. Much  more.  Malam ini tak 
boleh tidur  kut ? 

Rahman:  Explain this, why is it that the hadith in Sahih is also  
recoreded in earlier documents at least 100 years before Imam 
Bukhari????. If he had invented the hadith then, the hadith should not 
have been known BEFORE his life, yet they know.   COuld you explain to 
me this PROOF OF GAH STUPIDITY???.

*So they started burning  people's  houses  a  hundred years  earlier.  
Very good  Man.  Melayu sungguh lah.

Rahman: No, but it is you who does that.  this is because in the Quran, 
Allah SWT  refers to Prophet Mohd. SAW as NABI AND RASUL.  Therefore, 
who the hell are  you to say otherwise.

*Again you show a clear lack of knowledge.  It is never disputed that 
Muhammad  is    a  Rasul and  a  Nabi  (ie Muhammad is a  Messenger and 
a Prophet respectively).  We are discussing the distinction  between  
RASUL and NABI.  RASUL is messenger. Nabi is Prophet.  

Rahman:  I was saying in the general tone.  What difference does it make 
if Prophet  Mohd. is a Prophet or a Rasul.  This is because the verse An 
Nisa 80 CLEARLY  refers to the Prophet mohd. as somebody we have to 
obey.

* The Qurans says,  "We have to obey  God  and  obey  the  Rasul".   The  
office  of  Rasul  is  important. For  the  sake  of  accuracy  the  
words ,  "Obey the Nabi" do not  appear  in  the  Quran.  Obey the Rasul 
because Rasul brings a Risalah. Read and obey the Risalah brought by the 
Rasul. 

Rahman: I want to test your stupidity.  how deep is the depth.

*You are losing it. Sabak  sikit Man.  Jangan melayu sangat.

Rahman: By saying this, you are admitting yourself to be EQUAL TO SATAN.  
then I should change your name from CyberKUFFUR to CyberSYAITAN or 
CyberSyayatin

*  Since  you  and  Nik  Aziz  have  no  problem  accepting help  from  
Satan,  then if this is the case,   you and Nik Aziz  should have no 
problems accepting  help from me  also    : )))))   ! ! ! 

Rahman: Whatever the difference, it is IMMATERIAL to our discussion.  
Don;t try to DIVERT THE ISSUE here.

*Oi  since when did the Quran  become immaterial ?  Nampak  melayu  
sangatlah !

Rahman:  The writings of Bukhari is a compilation of the words of our 
PROPHET SAW. Therefore it is a revelation.  Unless you're stupid enough 
to read, go get a   copy of Sahih Bukahri .

*OK  Rahman since you asked for it.  Here is more  fake crap  from SATAN  
Bukhari.  And what a  revelation  this  one  is :

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9. Hadis No  232  narrated by  Abu Huraira:         
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established till the 
buttocks of the women of the tribe of Daus move while going round 
Dhi-al-Khalasa." Dhi-al-Khalasa was the idol of the Daus tribe which 
they used to worship in the Pre Islamic Period of ignorance.

Bukhari  falsely  accuses  the  Prophet of  saying  that   the Hour will 
not  happen  until  some  women's  backsides  start moving ? ? Yo man  
Rahman,  can you explain this one ah ?  Is there any liwat involved here 
since there is mention of backside ? Dont run away or change the story 
OK,  melayu ?  Just explain this crap. This is  quite a fantastic  
revelation, buttocks  moving  and  all.   But  just  for  your  info,  
this  is  what  the  Prophet  really  said,

Surah 31:34  "Verily the knowledge of the Hour is with God (alone). It 
is He Who sends down rain, and He Who knows what is in the wombs. Nor 
does any one know what it is that he will earn on the morrow: Nor does 
any one know in what land he is to die. Verily with God is full 
knowledge and He is acquainted (with all things)."

According  to  the  Prophet's  true  teachings  in the Quran, ONLY GOD 
knows  when the Hour will come.   No one else knows.  Not  only  that  
but  the  Prophet  also told  us,   "Nor does any one know what it is 
that he will earn on the morrow: Nor does any one know in what land he 
is to die. "

But  according  to  the  SATAN Bukhari,   he  accuses  the  Prophet  of  
saying some  crap  about  women's  backsides  moving  here and moving 
there  as  a  sign  that the Hour  will  be  established.  Excuse me 
Man, according  to  the  Satan  Bukhari,  this  women   belong to the 
tribe  called  Daus.  By any chance,  is  that  your  sister  ah ?  
Tolong explain tau ?  Jangan takut. Jangan lari.  Jangan melayu sangat 
OK   ?

Rahman:   That is because you are STUPID and DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE 
QURAN.  Read properly and try to understand the verses given above.  
Then come back to me to debate.  Give your side of the arguemment.

*Jangan lari Man. Dont change the subject. Where in the Quran does it 
say,  OR  EVEN  indicate  anything  called  the  SUNNAH  of  the  Rasul 
?  Please explain. This is a challenge  to  you.  I  dont  think  you  
can  explain  this.  Jangan lari tau ?  Jangan melayu sangat OK ?

Rahman:  So by this Surah (which you only understand from the LITERAL 
TRANSLATION
ONLY), you are saying that you are right because you only have ONE  
SCHOLAR?.  Is that it???.

*I'm getting  tired lah.   Anyway since you asked me a question, let me 
answer it. The answer  is  NO !  (pundeklah lu!  Why  so  stupeeeed ?).

Rahman: Well the majority which I am following here DO NOT FOLLOW THIER 
GUESESS.
Rather they base their arguement on FACTS.

*Waah  like  that one aah ! They burn down  people's  houses and watch  
your  womens'  backside  moving  up  and  down.  (Woi melayu,  jangan 
lari tau? You must explain itu cerita 'women backsides'.  Kan Cil, Alex 
Kee and many other people are reading your reply. Jangan kasi nampak 
melayu sangatlah.  Steady lah sikit brader )

Rahman:  Yes, but Othman Ali is BIAS because he is a DAMN Anti Hadith.  
Even his knowledge of the Quran is doubtful and his knowledge of Arabic 
is also far  from adequate.

*Man dont be a pundek. Have you read Othman Ali's  translation ? Please 
answer the question. 

Rahman :  If  you want to get the REAL meaning behind each verse, you 
will have to refer to a TAFSEER like Tafseer Ibnu kathir, Al Qurthubi, 
Ibnu Abbas, As Suyuthi, Jalalain etc.  In a Tafseer, the meaning of a 
verse is given from ALL  ASPECTS of the Arabic Language PLUS the meaning 
and explanation given by the  Quran and SUNNAH. 

*So please explain the womens'  backsides,  the  burning people's  
houses,  the  prophet  making  forecasts  like a fortune teller  
predicting when the Hour will come etc. Janagn lari tau.

I think this is enough torture for you for one night lah Man. If you 
remind me, I can answer your other points too, no sweat.

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